He had this idea what was to everybody crazy which was…Russian curator was totally mad at him because here he wanted to go to the morgue and he wanted to take me, his assistant, and she was very against it and I didn’t know what to think about it by myself but I was like “OK I am open to any experience” which was kind of crazy but I am really glad I did it. It is really…it was a crazy experience in the sense… when you see the body as a material. I am not a religious person but it was some spiritual experience, like form what… like the body as a form without, you know, when somebody is dead and it was a morgue full of unidentified, unknown people who basically don’t have relatives, and the conditions were horrifying. Some of the people who were basically like in the path, you know? In a room with the flies like this, flying all over the place and then you see the body as, as just a pure form and you feel that some god has to be there in real life, a real soul, whatever you call it.
Material is a very important this for us because, when we’re speaking about morgue chocolate, there is another work what came years later after this. Stephan did
suicide bomber. It’s a mould for, you know, from a live person we sculpted his body.
It is absolute mini sense of an image from the internet from a real suicide bomber in Iraq and it was done out of chocolate and that really made sense to combine the two materials because of the smell of chocolate. It is very important, you know, this sense of smell because when you see this, you see the violence, you see the guts and then you smell this chocolate and you basically have this very heavy desire to eat it or to do something.
Something from the chocolate, something comforting to you and the visuals is totally, you know, it is in a fight with your other senses and if it would be done out of anything else it would be so totally different. So I think it’s very important how you combine materials.
We use a lot of found objects we are very big… if we have one allegiance it is recycling.
We are very big on recycling, with everything, because I think there is so much done in this world so it is just a crime to do something and to not think about, if you produce something new you should think why you are doing this and that is why we use a lot of found objects
and materials what already. We don’t want to basically create more stuff, we want to recreate. Yeah from melting plastic it’s, you know, we use an industrial oven and a very heavy press and… basically use some tools what are, you know, brings a very violent gesture to the object. Kind of kicking and screaming and fighting with the form.