Production can be basically very small or can be much bigger and much bigger and more complicated.
Like with the Paper Surgery, it is not so much of production. Basically the process… I mean it just involved, I mean it just involved us. It just involved artists. For example with this piece on the wall there, what we did for a museum in Ljubljana, it was more about the road and you know, we needed those signs what you find on the american roads. And, you know, we had to go to the New York Transportation bureau so they produced signs for us… empty signs that usually they would put letters after but we had to order the stuff and of course you know, send the measurements and so this was a big… not actually big of course like Jeff Koons does, but it was some kind of other people involved in the production. As actually was another project, still in the process and that was an extremely painful production because we needed… we needed like animal, we needed…how do you say?
Like a form of a dried animal with the skin but anyway, I can show you… I can show you a picture of what Stephan used to make and we wanted to just do it bigger, so we went to the slaughter house where Stephan worked years ago, it is like two hours from New York and he called before and he was asking “oh we need a goat” you know “can we buy a goat?” and “yeah ok, you can buy a goat,” and we came and he said “yeah you know, go to this person, this person will bring to show you a goat” and this person is bringing us and he shows us goats alive. And we’re like, no no you misunderstood we just want to buy. how do you say? their body without guts you know, you know like basically what they sell for a meat store and he’s like “no, this is already… we already sell this portion. You have to choose. He will kill in five minutes for you what are you speaking about?
You just have to choose one” and then we had to choose basically who out of these goats will die now. Of course they will die tomorrow, you know, maybe later in the week but we are the people who will, you know, have this situation to be god now and say you, you are going to die and we were not prepared for that. It was part of production and we stood with Stephan and we realized, what can we do now? We’re like no, we need maybe a small goat and we were kind of postponed in this moment and they brought us and we tried to say you know, just do it by yourself, you know, we don’t need so much meat on … maybe somebody who is thinner and this was very crazy moment and then I realized that I actually should go through all the process and I stood there and I watched how this animal got killed and I was thinking “I need to do this since I choose who will be killed, I need to see it.